City College of New York
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Is "charging admissions" really correct? Shouldn't we say that CCNY began charging for
admission or charging tuition
? "Charging admissions" makes it sound like a movie, not a college. Rlquall
02:32, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
what is the rank of college?
hey guys help me out telling me about the rank of this university. thanx
It ranks, man.
What does it rank as? In what tier? By whom?
Sorry, but UC Berkeley is a public uni and I'm almost sure that is has produced more Nobel laureates than City. I wish someone would check that.
:City College is talking about alumni who went on to win the Nobel Prize. UC Berkeley has an impressive list of scholars and faculty who won, but I am not sure about the number of alumni. City College has claimed this for many decades. One should decisively investigate. But here's a link to UCB "scholars" (faculty and researchers) who won the Nobel Prize, which is indeed impressive. http://www.berkeley.edu/news/berkeleyan/2001/10/17_time.html
18:36, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
:I think City College is talking about people who did their undergraduate studies and graduated from City College and went on to get a Nobel Prize. I don't think they count people who did their Ph.D. at a university. I found a list of UC Berkeley Nobel Prize winners which is quite comprehensive, and would seem to have more alumni than City College, who won the Nobel Prize, but not all of whom did their undergraduate degree at UC Berkeley. List_of_Nobel_laureates_associated_with_UC_Berkeley
18:55, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
::The undergraduate programs at Berkeley and CCNY have each graduated nine Nobel Laureates as of early 2006. CCNY has an edge, though, because two other laureates studied there for part of their undergraduate careers: Julian Schwinger
(Physics 1965), who transferred to Columbia
; and Henry Kissinger
(Peace 1973), who transferred to Harvard
Well that should be reflected in the article then, shouldn't it?
:Surely, as time permits. We're all volunteers ! Have a look at this Wikipedia article (which may or may not be accurate or complete) which seems to address some points you raised:
::Nobel Prize laureates by university affiliation
02:33, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
Le Mot JusteEven today, after three decades of relative mediocrity...
Is mediocrity le mot juste here? Firstly it strains the objectivity, and secondly CCNY's recent status is, unfortunately, somewhat below mediocre.
:I didn't write it. I just don't know. The statement has a perceptual essence of fact in it. There are some really great and famous professors still there from many decades ago. CCNY is just not the same place it was many decades ago when the best and the brightest went there in lieu of ivy league colleges. The perception of the institution as a whole, I don't know. I do know it is trying to bounce back. They are building a dormitory -- the first one ever at CCNY. They have an honours college within CCNY. Being a special public "for all" college, its student population by-and-large follows the trend of the current minority populations in greater New York City. Some students do come from out of state, and from abroad, but they are not seemingly in very large numbers, at least at the undergraduate level, currently. -- Wikiklrsc
02:49, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
Yes but mediocre? As I said I don't think CCNY or CUNY as a whole has yet "bounced back" to mediocre.
Why not soften that? "After three decades of controversy concerning its academic standards" would be less judgmental.
Dormitory at the college
Actually this is the second dormitory at city college. the first one closed in the 1950's (it was off campus housing) http://www1.ccny.cuny.edu/gb_information.cfm 188.8.131.52
08:02, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
:Well, yes, but this one is the first one built exclusively from the ground up as a dormitory, and on campus. The Hebrew Orphan Asylum across from CCNY was originally just that, The Hebrew Orphan Asylum, unaffiliated with CCNY, but later housed "Army Hall" where the large ROTC classes, etc. were held. Then for a some years it may have housed some rooms for students. Then it was demolished. To wit: "Designed by William H. Hume. Erected 1884 as new home of Hebrew Orphan Asylum (HOA). When the HOA closed, the building was used by City College to house members of the U. S. Armed Forces assigned to the Army Specialized Training Program (ASTP). From 1946-1955, it provided dormitory, library and classroom space to the college. Demolished 1955/6." http://184.108.40.206:81/archivesphoto.html
--- (Bob) Wikiklrsc
16:20, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
Rockefeller & CCNY
An anonymous contributor put these statements in the article, which were unverifiable. Tuition only started after Rockefeller was out of office. He was governor until 1973 and tuition started being charged in 1976. And the "umbrella" university, CUNY, was founded in 1961. Something doesn't seem to add up. The original statement by the contributor was:
:There had been a desire to create a "university" umbrella for the various city run colleges which had been operating as extensions of The City College. Governor Nelson Rockefeller agreed to university status on condition that the colleges charge tuition. Up until that point, New York city's public colleges had always been free.
If anyone can verify this please showing citations or some backing information, then re-insert it. Thanks. --- (Bob) Wikiklrsc
15:56, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
Good edit. The original post was not
correct. CUNY began long before imposition of tuition, which I believe was in 1976 or perhaps even later. Thanks. -- Fred Sherman
:Thanks, Fred. I was really confused on understanding the addition to the article ! Best Regards. --- (Bob) Wikiklrsc
15:42, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
"Fictional" alumni / students of CCNY
I wonder if this category "Fictional" (students/alumni/etc.) that someone started recently, really works in this article. --- (Bob) Wikiklrsc
19:16, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
I still think that's POV unless it's cited somewhere. Did Princeton Review or Kaplan call it that? Or a news article about CCNY? Wl219
02:59, 1 August 2006 (UTC)