Talk:Phi Sigma Sigma
The Greekchat page contains a message from 2002 that uses "Love in the Pyramid" to sign correspondence!
:And so? For all we know that could just be a casual greeting they use and not a motto, secret phrase, password, etc. That's what verification is for. Until you have a valid verifiable source that follows WP:V
we don't really know for sure. And like Dysepsion said the only places that things like these are usually found are on social sites and the reason those are not verifiable is because I could go to greekchat.com and say 'omgz lolz Phi Sigma Sigma's secret motto is one for all and all for the sphinx' Just because it's said on a site like that doesn't make it true. --ImmortalGoddezz
01:21, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
With regards to the LITP / "Love in the Pyramid" claim, see the following websites for evidence:
That first photo really says it all, doesn't it girls? 220.127.116.11
00:54, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
:First one? So there's a heart in the pyramid. The others mention LITP, but do not explain explicitly what it is so it could mean anything, perhaps it does mean "Love in the pyramid" perhaps it doesn't. Quite honestly the only one that straight out says "Love in the Pyramid" is the myspace page and that does not meet wikipedia verifiability criteria. Please read over WP:V
00:59, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
:Why are you referencing message boards and even a myspace account for info? They are not verifiable sources per Wikipedia's policy. Secret mottos, handshakes etc for any fraternity and sorority never last on Wikipedia because who's to say that they are the correct "secrets" in the first place? They can't be found anywhere else. They never fall in the realm of verifiable information and are seen as "original research" which is also against Wikipedia's policy. If anything, page protection should be to stop editors like you who seem to be bent on constantly changing this article. --† Ðy§ep§ion † Speak your mind
01:00, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
Some members of Phi Sigma Sigma would apparantly like to keep handshake and motto information secret, but this is irrelevant - desire for secrecy will not and should not keep information off of Wikipedia. Protection for this article has been requested until the vandalism stops. 18.104.22.168
00:36, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
:Perhaps if you'd discussed your desire to have this information up here instead of just reverting it protection would not have to be requested and declined. In anycase what is the point of having the "secret" on the page? Really, unless you're a part of the organization it has no effect on you and shouldn't matter in anycase. I'm a part of another organization and don't really give two cents about their policies or secrets but to the people in them they are symbolic and mean something to them personally and for that I think they deserve a little more respect than to have a reversion war. My best advice would be to have discussion beforehand. In anycase how do you know that those are truely Phi Sigma Sigma's handshake and motto, do you have citation or sources that would pass WP:V
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